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Post by Komrade Kharloth on Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:54 pm

So, I think it's time that we had a semi-serious thread for news and discussions and shit. Instead of making a topic for a single news story, and only having it reach one or two pages, we should just have a news topic (kinda like the general gaming topic)


Also: Don't turn this into a massive flame war, be respectful, you can debate an argue all you want, but no insulting a person or a group of people.

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Post by Xandy on Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:16 am

Komrade Kharloth wrote:but no insulting a person or a group of people.

Question; do the dutch count as people?

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Post by Dead Herald on Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:17 am

No.

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Post by Komrade Kharloth on Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:18 am

Viscount Xandus wrote:
Komrade Kharloth wrote:but no insulting a person or a group of people.

Question; do the dutch count as people?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.

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Post by Komrade Kharloth on Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:21 am

So I heard earlier today that the UN or someone issued an arrest warrant for gaddafi.


Well, at this point it seems kind of pointless.

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Post by Xandy on Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:32 am

Komrade Kharloth wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.

Good. I hate those fuckers.

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Post by Dead Herald on Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:39 am

Komrade Kharloth wrote:So I heard earlier today that the UN or someone issued an arrest warrant for gaddafi.


Well, at this point it seems kind of pointless.

It's a good thing that we didn't have a U.N. during the American Civil War. Good god, who knows what would have happened.

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Post by MilkyFresh on Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:23 am

Gooks. Thoughts?

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Post by Dead Herald on Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:07 pm

Koreans are robots.

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Post by PayJ on Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:26 pm

I don't see why we have two forums devoted to the same thing?

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Post by Dead Herald on Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:27 pm

What, Koreans?

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Post by PayJ on Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:30 pm

No news. I invented this forums ages ago and it's called

http://www.mellowleprechauns.com/f12-al-melzeera

And it's identical to this forum.

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Post by Komrade Kharloth on Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:57 pm

I posted it in al-mezeera....

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Post by NightSwimming on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:04 am

News from Australia:
Some time soon all cigarettes must be contained in plain packaging. The colour of the box has to be 'olive green'. The president of the Olive Association has fired up, saying the colour shouldn't be called 'olive green' as it gives a bad name to olives and people will stop eating them. She also said that the colour should be called 'broccoli green' instead.

Also - the Pope has a new website. He tweeted the address from his iPad.

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Post by PayJ on Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:54 am

The pope has no place on the internet.

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Post by Komrade Kharloth on Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:39 pm

inb4 someone hacks it and coats it with CP.

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:56 pm

NightSwimming wrote:News from Australia:
Some time soon all cigarettes must be contained in plain packaging. The colour of the box has to be 'olive green'. The president of the Olive Association has fired up, saying the colour shouldn't be called 'olive green' as it gives a bad name to olives and people will stop eating them. She also said that the colour should be called 'broccoli green' instead.

Also - the Pope has a new website. He tweeted the address from his iPad.

Make the packets unappealing to the eye, makes sense as a deterrent.

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Post by Pararaptor on Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:02 pm

They banned people smoking in Australian film & television as well, I think.
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Post by MilkyFresh on Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:03 pm

Pararaptor wrote:They banned people smoking in Australian film & television as well, I think.
Are you serious?
That's it, fuck this country. No way can that be true?

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Post by Pararaptor on Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:04 pm

Hmm.
I can't find it on google but I know I heard about it. Maybe it was just a proposal.
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Post by Pararaptor on Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:07 pm

Oh it was in China, not here.

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Post by MilkyFresh on Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:07 pm

haha, easy mistake to make

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Post by Pararaptor on Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:08 pm

God-damn I get to film some stuff for Media soon I can't wait!
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Post by Komrade Kharloth on Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:43 pm

You know what?

Fuck greece.

I'm sick of all these spoiled greek shits throwing a fucking tantrum because the EU asked them to pay back the money that they loaned to them to keep them from going under.

Let their fucking economy burn for all I care.

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Post by PayJ on Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:47 pm

Easy for someone out of the EU to say. EU was a mistake. Turn Europe into the USA and fuck up just like they are.

We are run by greedy idiots and that's why governments don't work.

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Post by Komrade Kharloth on Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:18 pm

PayJ567 wrote:Easy for someone out of the EU to say. EU was a mistake. Turn Europe into the USA and fuck up just like they are.

We are run by greedy idiots and that's why governments don't work.
Move to Canada.

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Post by PayJ on Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:20 pm

Kommissar Kharloth wrote:
PayJ567 wrote:Easy for someone out of the EU to say. EU was a mistake. Turn Europe into the USA and fuck up just like they are.

We are run by greedy idiots and that's why governments don't work.
Move to Canada.
I want to damn it. Well I half do. I definitely want to visit the country in the very near future.

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:27 am

PayJ567 wrote:I don't see why we have two forums devoted to the same thing?

PayJ567 wrote:No news. I invented this forums ages ago and it's called

http://www.mellowleprechauns.com/f12-al-melzeera

And it's identical to this forum.


The idea is for it to be a more structured and dedicated variation, this thread is out of place here but I moved it seeing as Kharloth did intend it for this purpose, as mentioned in the relevant thread in the Administrator forum.

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Post by NightSwimming on Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:10 am

Demented Teddy wrote:
NightSwimming wrote:News from Australia:
Some time soon all cigarettes must be contained in plain packaging. The colour of the box has to be 'olive green'. The president of the Olive Association has fired up, saying the colour shouldn't be called 'olive green' as it gives a bad name to olives and people will stop eating them. She also said that the colour should be called 'broccoli green' instead.

Make the packets unappealing to the eye, makes sense as a deterrent.

The only people I can imagine that this would effect are 15 year olds who smoke to be cool at parties and really old stubborn pensioners who will bitch and moan about it and not smoke for a week so they can tell their bingo friends that it's an outrage. Both parties will soon go back and take it up again. I wouldn't care if my smokes came in a fluro flashing orange box - after a while I'd get used to it and start feenin for them.

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Demented Teddy wrote:
NightSwimming wrote:News from Australia:
Some time soon all cigarettes must be contained in plain packaging. The colour of the box has to be 'olive green'. The president of the Olive Association has fired up, saying the colour shouldn't be called 'olive green' as it gives a bad name to olives and people will stop eating them. She also said that the colour should be called 'broccoli green' instead.

Make the packets unappealing to the eye, makes sense as a deterrent.

The only people I can imagine that this would effect are 15 year olds who smoke to be cool at parties and really old stubborn pensioners who will bitch and moan about it and not smoke for a week so they can tell their bingo friends that it's an outrage. Both parties will soon go back and take it up again. I wouldn't care if my smokes came in a fluro flashing orange box - after a while I'd get used to it and start feenin for them.
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Post by NightSwimming on Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:21 am

That's part of it. I read somewhere a while back that they're trying to reduce the amount of smokers by a ridiculous percent. 10% I think. Which is HUGE. I don't think a green packet will work. They need to make them more expensive AND smaller for people to stop smoking. It's not about the looks of the packet, it's about the cigarettes themselves. In my opinion.

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NightSwimming wrote:That's part of it. I read somewhere a while back that they're trying to reduce the amount of smokers by a ridiculous percent. 10% I think. Which is HUGE. I don't think a green packet will work. They need to make them more expensive AND smaller for people to stop smoking. It's not about the looks of the packet, it's about the cigarettes themselves. In my opinion.
Increase price while reducing quality?
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Post by Dead Herald on Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:27 am

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NightSwimming wrote:That's part of it. I read somewhere a while back that they're trying to reduce the amount of smokers by a ridiculous percent. 10% I think. Which is HUGE. I don't think a green packet will work. They need to make them more expensive AND smaller for people to stop smoking. It's not about the looks of the packet, it's about the cigarettes themselves. In my opinion.
Increase price while reducing quality?
That is EXTREMELY drastic and would only spark outrage.

That's what we do with everything in the US!

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NightSwimming wrote:That's part of it. I read somewhere a while back that they're trying to reduce the amount of smokers by a ridiculous percent. 10% I think. Which is HUGE. I don't think a green packet will work. They need to make them more expensive AND smaller for people to stop smoking. It's not about the looks of the packet, it's about the cigarettes themselves. In my opinion.
Increase price while reducing quality?
That is EXTREMELY drastic and would only spark outrage.

I can't think of anything else that would actually have the effect that they're looking for though...

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Dead Herald wrote:
Demented Teddy wrote:
NightSwimming wrote:That's part of it. I read somewhere a while back that they're trying to reduce the amount of smokers by a ridiculous percent. 10% I think. Which is HUGE. I don't think a green packet will work. They need to make them more expensive AND smaller for people to stop smoking. It's not about the looks of the packet, it's about the cigarettes themselves. In my opinion.
Increase price while reducing quality?
That is EXTREMELY drastic and would only spark outrage.

That's what we do with everything in the US!
Elaborate.

NightSwimming wrote:
Demented Teddy wrote:
NightSwimming wrote:That's part of it. I read somewhere a while back that they're trying to reduce the amount of smokers by a ridiculous percent. 10% I think. Which is HUGE. I don't think a green packet will work. They need to make them more expensive AND smaller for people to stop smoking. It's not about the looks of the packet, it's about the cigarettes themselves. In my opinion.
Increase price while reducing quality?
That is EXTREMELY drastic and would only spark outrage.

I can't think of anything else that would actually have the effect that they're looking for though...

The only viable option is the reduce the amount of smokers slowly over time.
Banning tobacco products as they are now will have a lesser version of the same effect that banning alcohol products would cause.
Top priorities right now is deterring people from starting in the first place and encouraging those already in the habit to quit.

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Post by Dead Herald on Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:10 am

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Dead Herald wrote:

That's what we do with everything in the US!
Elaborate.

It's simply the way things have been done lately. What with the economy going south, food, transportation and labor prices skyrocketing and the dollar being exponentially more worthless by the day. Business are cutting the quality of their products and jacking up prices at the same time. It's the only way they can make ends meet and still cover the enormous federal and state tax burdens here.

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Dead Herald wrote:
Demented Teddy wrote:
Dead Herald wrote:

That's what we do with everything in the US!
Elaborate.

It's simply the way things have been done lately. What with the economy going south, food, transportation and labor prices skyrocketing and the dollar being exponentially more worthless by the day. Business are cutting the quality of their products and jacking up prices at the same time. It's the only way they can make ends meet and still cover the enormous federal and state tax burdens here.

....That is completely out of the context of the current discussion.

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Post by Dead Herald on Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:15 am

Not entirely. One of the things they do in this country to "discourage smoking", is to levy massive taxes and tariffs on tobacco products. My brother keeps bitching about how smokes are getting worse and worse and that he has to go to indian reservations to get cheap cigarettes and they're even worse than the ones sold normally.

The thing about tobacco here is that all these laws, taxes, public bans and what not have done nothing to slow down tobacco use.

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Post by Komrade Kharloth on Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:18 am

Illegal cigarettes are a major source of income for criminals where in the region of Canada I'm from.


All because the government taxes the fuck out of them.

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