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Post by Furburt on Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:00 am

Libya looks to be one of the defining conflicts of our era. A titanic clash between the forces of isolationism and oppression and those of youth and freedom. What happens here will define the Arab world for decades to come.

So with that in mind, is anyone else really hoping that Hollywood makes a totally exploitative and stupid action film about it, in the vein of Rambo III, that totally misrepresents and oversimplifies the whole thing for the purpose of needless, over the top violence?



Because I fucking love films like that.

I can see it now.

"In a nation torn apart by war, one man had the courage to fight for freedom.

Dolph Lundgren.

This summer, join ex-special forces officer Trip Hazard as he comes out of retirement to kick some Gaddafi ass in,

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He thought his war was over. He was wrong.
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Also starring Christopher Walken, Jean Claude Van-Damme and Pierre Kirby.

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Post by The Moonbai on Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:02 am

It would be nice for a movie to be made like that yeah! Magic machine guns and martial arts ftw!

God knows they wont make a game about it.

Or maybe they will some day

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Post by Dead Herald on Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:07 am

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Post by Furburt on Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:19 am

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Post by Katzenjammer on Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:23 am

The Moonbai wrote:It would be nice for a movie to be made like that yeah! Magic machine guns and martial arts ftw!

God knows they wont make a game about it.

Or maybe they will some day

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Dear Jesus Christ I want to play that.

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Post by MilkyFresh on Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:54 am

Can Dolph Lundren be out mascot on here? We need like 50 Dolph emoticons.

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Re: Libya

Post by Furburt on Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:38 am



Christ, he looks good for 53.


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Post by Unabletothinkofname on Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:01 pm

As does Bruce Dickinson.

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Post by Alkaline on Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:20 pm

Unabletothinkofname wrote:As does Bruce Dickinson.

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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:29 pm

The Libyan conflict: a load of liberal crying about the affairs of a nation that they know nothing about and have nothing to do with.

I mean, of course it's as easy to define as "Evil dictator bullying brave freedom fighters."

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Post by Furburt on Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:40 pm

Still, shooting civilians and all. Hardly statesmanlike.

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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:58 pm

Furburt wrote:Still, shooting civilians and all. Hardly statesmanlike.
People die in war, not all of them are fighters, simple as.

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Post by Dead Herald on Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:59 pm

The Libyan Conflict: Deposing a dictator that hates us in favor of installing a random govt that's likely loyal to a group of terrorists who hate us a lot more.

Obama: A lousy president who doesn't move on world affairs without going to the UN for a session of "Mother, May I?".

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Re: Libya

Post by Terria on Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:03 pm

This place is too serious.




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Post by Dead Herald on Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:08 pm

Too serious? The forum is called Nigger News.

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Post by Furburt on Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:11 pm

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People die in war, not all of them are fighters, simple as.

I wouldn't say so, not when the Libyan government forces are explicitly firing on civilian targets to incite fear. In Misurata there's snipers outside the civilian hospital ordered to shoot at anything that moves, and they have.

I mean, the army can fight the rebels as much as they want, it's a war, but gunning down and shelling civilians is just cowardly and barbaric.

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Post by Furburt on Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:12 pm

Freebird wrote:This place is too serious.




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Post by Terria on Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:14 pm

Exactly what I was thinking of.

I have so many reasons why I should hate Tim Minchin. And yet he's one of my favourite comedians.

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Post by Furburt on Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:30 pm

He's so adorably awkward.

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Re: Libya

Post by Guest on Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:48 pm

Furburt wrote:
Demented Teddy wrote:
People die in war, not all of them are fighters, simple as.

I wouldn't say so, not when the Libyan government forces are explicitly firing on civilian targets to incite fear. In Misurata there's snipers outside the civilian hospital ordered to shoot at anything that moves, and they have.

I mean, the army can fight the rebels as much as they want, it's a war, but gunning down and shelling civilians is just cowardly and barbaric.
Have you considered the possibility that perhaps the rebels use civilian centres as discreet bases for operations and other such things?

There's more to these things than what meets the eye, what the liberal media percieves as inciting fear may actually be something "reasonable" for lack of a better term.

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Post by Furburt on Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:57 pm

Well, put it this way, I'm far more likely to trust international news media than I am a secretive, paranoid dictator whose very survival depends on spreading misinformation.
If the Gadaffi regime can actually produce the casualty reports and evidence of dead civilians being rebels it continually says it possesses but never shows, then I'll take that into account, but at the moment, all the stories about the Libyan army shelling civilians are being corroborated by reporters on the ground and consistent witness reports, and all networks are reporting the same thing, even Al-Jazeera, which is at odds with the US and NATO, and thus has no reason to lie for them. Whereas Gadaffi's reports have never been shown by any independent expert, or indeed anyone at all, to be anything other than baseless propaganda.

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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:22 pm

Fair enough

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Post by GrinningManiac on Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:25 pm

Libya worries me only because we don't have an exit strategy. I appreciate that conflicts are mindbogglingly complicated and delicate and you literally cannot plan for all eventualities. Even so, an idea of what we want to accomplish and what to do when we've done that is the bare minimum I hope for from a burgeoning military high command.

The only advice I could lend them is not to remove the administration and army of the country, like they did in Iraq. It's one thing to remove a brain tumour, it's quite another to behead them.

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Post by Guest on Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:30 pm

The only reason the west are going is for the pragmatic reason of oil.

Like Ireland will get any of that so the only reason they have holds no footing with me.

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Post by Dead Herald on Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:38 pm

All that oil goes to france.

We don't have an exit strategy?

We don't have a strategy at all.

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Post by GrinningManiac on Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:43 pm

Touché

Turkey's gonna try and broker a peace. Basically, the length, consequences and costs of this conflict depend on just what type of batsh*t insane Qadaffi is

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Post by Dead Herald on Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:12 pm

Meh, I don't think the Turks will be that much help. Frankly everyone went into this "humanitarian effort" with their thumbs firmly planted in their asses.

I'm not a fan of Qadaffi, but I fear we're going to end up with something worse when this is over. The devil you know is always better than the devil you don't know.

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Post by Terria on Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:46 am

Dead Herald wrote:Obama: A lousy president who doesn't move on world affairs without going to the UN for a session of "Mother, May I?".
A part of me thought we exaggerated how much Harold brought up Obama. Then I reread his posts.

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Post by Furburt on Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:59 am

Was this the place where Herald accused me of buying in to Islamist propaganda because I occasionally watch Al Jazeera?

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Post by Terria on Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:03 pm

Not sure.

I want to find the thread where he insulted somebody for reading some well respected paper (New York Times I think) then whined like a bitch.

I also want to find the post where he claimed I ruined his "subtle wit."

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Post by Furburt on Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:09 pm

A bevy of stupidity.

And on topic for once, the rebels are at Gadaffis compound! Yaaay!

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Post by MilkyFresh on Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:09 pm

Freebird wrote:Not sure.

I want to find the thread where he insulted somebody for reading some well respected paper (New York Times I think) then whined like a bitch.

I also want to find the post where he claimed I ruined his "subtle wit."
That was me I think. I certainly got in an argument with him about it.

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Post by Terria on Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:11 pm

It was funny. I think he also had a go at someone for saying the BBC wasn't biased. As if he's ever read/watched/heard anything from the BBC. Silly cunt.

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Post by Furburt on Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:12 pm

I think that one was me.

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Post by MilkyFresh on Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:13 pm

I remember when I said that global warming was an issue, then instead of disagreeing with me he said that I was a complete moron who believed anything hollywood told him. And then I called him fat.

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Post by Terria on Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:16 pm

MilkyFresh wrote:I remember when I said that global warming was an issue, then instead of disagreeing with me he said that I was a complete moron who believed anything hollywood told him. And then I called him fat.

It was a good day.
I remember that.

http://www.mellowleprechauns.com/t671-earth-hour#29315

Not the same post but it still made me do a double take.

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Post by MilkyFresh on Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:17 pm

He's just a big cuddly bundle of fun isn't he?

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Post by Terria on Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:21 pm

Totally.

Reading these old threads is so much fun. I found my new favourite post anywhere ever.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.270861-Could-the-next-stalker-game-be-set-in-japan#10415091

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Post by MilkyFresh on Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:22 pm

Hahahahaha, Oh god. I never read that. Brilliant.

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Post by Furburt on Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:24 pm

I think that's the one that got him banned.

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