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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Hubilub on Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:34 pm

Nah man, most of the game is really good. Sophisticated and thought-provoking symbolism and motifs, excellent handling of past events and characters, near-perfect build-up to the final fight.

It's just the ending that's shit. Whereas with the prequels it was just the endings that were good. Because they meant that the films were over and you could stop watching it

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Xandy on Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:38 pm

Speaking of the Star Wars prequels...



Me gusta.

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Hubilub on Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:38 pm

*heartattack*

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by PayJ on Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:39 pm

Fair. So they didn't fuck anything else up and with a better ending it would be the perfect trilogy?

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by PayJ on Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:40 pm

Also don't waste Harry's time with ME3. I want to see the matrix torn apart.

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Furburt on Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:50 am

So in that way, this is the Return of the Jedi. Generally thought of as inferior to the earlier films because of misguided attempts to appeal to a larger fanbase but still considered a pretty good film in its own right.

Although Jedi had a pretty kick-ass ending.

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Hubilub on Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:57 am

Although most of ME3 is pretty good though. Not really inferior. It does an excellent job of continuing your relationships and decisions.

Also, something I just have to mention:

Bioware: "Mass Effect 3 will not be as dark as ME2"

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Furburt on Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:07 am

Inferior bit was referring to the ending. Most of the rest of the game seems to be pretty well received.

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Re: Mass Effect 3

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Hubilub on Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:05 pm

I agree with them that they shouldn't change the ending. That just fucks shit up. Leave it as it is, plot holes and all

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by LordCuthberton on Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:15 pm

Sorry fuck that idea: Give me the ending Furburt posted now.

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Komrade Kharloth on Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:27 pm

I disagree hub, while I haven't played the game, if the ending sucks so much shit and everyone hates it, I don't see the harm in developers releasing a more appropriate end to such a great series.

Think of it as fixing a mistake, not as a retcon.

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Furburt on Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:29 pm

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Hubilub on Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:29 pm

Komrade Kharloth wrote:I disagree hub, while I haven't played the game, if the ending sucks so much shit and everyone hates it, I don't see the harm in developers releasing a more appropriate end to such a great series.

Think of it as fixing a mistake, not as a retcon.
It's about principles. You can't just go change what you've established. That's what Lucas did

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Pararaptor on Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:29 am

But the DLC is optional, isn't it?

In this case though, principle be damned. I don't think anyone liked that ending.
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Komrade Kharloth on Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:36 am

Hubilub wrote:
Komrade Kharloth wrote:I disagree hub, while I haven't played the game, if the ending sucks so much shit and everyone hates it, I don't see the harm in developers releasing a more appropriate end to such a great series.

Think of it as fixing a mistake, not as a retcon.
It's about principles. You can't just go change what you've established. That's what Lucas did

People dislike that because he fucked up something that was awesome. This is the opposite, they're unfucking something that was shit.

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Unabletothinkofname on Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:48 am

Komrade Kharloth wrote:
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Komrade Kharloth wrote:I disagree hub, while I haven't played the game, if the ending sucks so much shit and everyone hates it, I don't see the harm in developers releasing a more appropriate end to such a great series.

Think of it as fixing a mistake, not as a retcon.
It's about principles. You can't just go change what you've established. That's what Lucas did

People dislike that because he fucked up something that was awesome. This is the opposite, they're unfucking something that was shit.
That. You're in the minority with regards to the ending, Hub, you don't have to buy the DLC if they do a Broken Steel.
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Hubilub on Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:38 am

It's not as simple as just saying "The DLC is optional, don't play it." I also hated the ending. But authors shouldn't rewrite things they've published. They put it out there, people didn't like it, that's a shame, but that's how it is. That's the full ME3 experience. If they create a DLC ending, nobody can actually go, "nah, I don't need it, it's over for me", because you'll know you're not getting the real ending.

It is a retcon, through and through. Don't try to rationalize it. It's not something we should encourage creators to do. Doesn't anyone see the absurdity with this? What if people started banging on J.K. Rowling's door about the ending to Harry Potter being shit, and so she had to send out a ten-page "real" ending to all bookshops in the world so people could get the "real" ending? Or that people hated on the Lord of the Rings films so much that they had to release a 20 minute video with the ending where Saruman invades the Shire?

Fans pressuring creators into going "Fuck it, new ending" isn't something I'd ever support.


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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Furburt on Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:36 am

In this particular case I wouldn't mind it, because it would be nice to see ME get a satisfactory conclusion after 4 years, but I do agree that it sets an alarming precedent for this sort of thing happening whenever people are sick with a games ending.

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Walnutman on Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:38 pm

Just finished the game. I chose the synthesis ending as it seemed to be the paragon one.

It was alright, not as catastrophic as I thought it was gonna be, just a big meh.

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Seventh Wave on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:38 am

Hubilub wrote:
Komrade Kharloth wrote:I disagree hub, while I haven't played the game, if the ending sucks so much shit and everyone hates it, I don't see the harm in developers releasing a more appropriate end to such a great series.

Think of it as fixing a mistake, not as a retcon.
It's about principles. You can't just go change what you've established. That's what Lucas did

That's the thing with Mass Effect though... it was never established, really. The story was meant to pan out according to how you acted - just like in ME1 and 2.

As for the game being darker than ME2, you forgot to mention the bit where
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Seventh Wave on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:41 am

Hubilub wrote:

Fans pressuring creators into going "Fuck it, new ending" isn't something I'd ever support.


I usually wouldn't either, except Bioware have repeatedly stated that the ending would reflect the players previous choices, when in reality it actually negated them all.
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by LordCuthberton on Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:27 am

Guys, ME3 ending DLC concept art got leaked.
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Furburt on Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:32 am

Miranda already looks toasty. Bitch gonna get raped tonight.

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Hubilub on Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:05 pm

Half of the people in that photo are dead

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by LordCuthberton on Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:28 pm

Not in my game!

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Hubilub on Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:56 pm

Still pissed of that Bioware murdered all the Geth after I killed all the Quarians to save them.

Why are all their options: 2 deep discussions on morality + 1 OMG BEST ENDING FOR EVERYONE

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Seventh Wave on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:17 am

Stay the fuck away from my women, Vega.

Your one dimensional racial stereotype slang thing is getting on my nerves.

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Hubilub on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:54 am

I enjoyed kicking his ass

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Post by LordCuthberton on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:00 am

And Vega is played by a white guy....

This guy actually.


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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Furburt on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:32 am

That fucker ruined the already quite ruined Scooby Doo movies. Fred is not supposed to be sarcastic and arrogant!

Shaggy they got right. I watched it a couple of days ago on VHS.

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by LordCuthberton on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:18 pm

Out of choice?!

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Furburt on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:19 pm

Drugs and friends are powerful forces indeed, laddy.

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by LordCuthberton on Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:26 pm

Rowan Atkinson was a little funny.

Still a shit script.

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Furburt on Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:23 pm

Oh, it's fucking terrible. Really, really bad. Everyone except Shaggy and maybe Velma was disgusting.

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Furburt on Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:25 pm

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/scooby-doo

Gotta love the top critic review.

Fuck, I was pretty out of it and I still thought it was terrible.

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Pararaptor on Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:29 pm

Scooby-Doo is a hundred times better in those furry comics where he's a complete asshole to his gay lover.
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Pararaptor on Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:31 pm

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Furburt on Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:33 pm

Why do these exist?

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Re: Mass Effect 3

Post by Hubilub on Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:34 pm

What the fuck

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