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Post by PayJ on Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:44 pm

Also you can't say Homosexuality is "natural" I know animals fuck other animals of the same gender but at the end of the day those animals don't fuck only their own gender. It is natural to pro-create and pass on your genes.

Not saying there is anything wrong with homosexuality but it isn't natural.

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Post by Pararaptor on Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:54 pm

The deciding factor on whether or not it is natural would not lie in what other animals do but if homosexuality was brought on by social factors or hormones in the womb due to ingestion of chemicals by the mother that she would not consume were it not for our industrialised civilisation (or indeed, the same chemicals ingested by the child at a young age), or if it was brought on by genetics.
And by genetics, I don't mean genetics in a purely hereditary sense. Shit can go wrong in the genetic code & the brain is a very delicate, complex machine. The mutation doesn't even have to occur in the child, it could again involve hormones the mother shouldn't have produced going to the foetus.

This is all entirely speculative with no evidence at all though, & I actually think it's due to social factors above anything else.
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Post by PayJ on Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:57 pm

Our current world has gone beyond natural.

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Post by Pararaptor on Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:12 pm

Yeah, that's why I'm saying if it's chemicals the mother or child ingests or social factors then it's not natural, if it's due to genetic mistakes in the mother or child not brought on by outside chemical factors then it's natural.
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Post by PayJ on Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:59 pm

Pararaptor wrote:Yeah, that's why I'm saying if it's chemicals the mother or child ingests or social factors then it's not natural, if it's due to genetic mistakes in the mother or child not brought on by outside chemical factors then it's natural.
Yeah. Still they might find out the cause in our lifetimes. I mean they're on the way to discovering the cause of the universe.

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Post by Mr. Wiggles on Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:12 pm

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Pararaptor wrote:Yeah, that's why I'm saying if it's chemicals the mother or child ingests or social factors then it's not natural, if it's due to genetic mistakes in the mother or child not brought on by outside chemical factors then it's natural.
Yeah. Still they might find out the cause in our lifetimes. I mean they're on the way to discovering the cause of the universe.

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Post by PayJ on Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:16 pm

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Pararaptor wrote:Yeah, that's why I'm saying if it's chemicals the mother or child ingests or social factors then it's not natural, if it's due to genetic mistakes in the mother or child not brought on by outside chemical factors then it's natural.
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Post by Mr. Wiggles on Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:18 pm

PayJ567 wrote:
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Pararaptor wrote:Yeah, that's why I'm saying if it's chemicals the mother or child ingests or social factors then it's not natural, if it's due to genetic mistakes in the mother or child not brought on by outside chemical factors then it's natural.
Yeah. Still they might find out the cause in our lifetimes. I mean they're on the way to discovering the cause of the universe.

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Post by Hubilub on Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:21 pm

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Pedophilia is in every sense of the word a disorder. Being attracted to a child is both morally and biologically wrong. There's nothing in the way we are born or raised that causes us to be pedophiles. Something in the brain of a pedophile is wrong, simple as that

I disagree with this bit. You hear all the time about paedophiles whose dad touched them as a child, and so on. Unless it's very strongly genetic, that sounds like childhood trauma influencing it.
Well, now we're entering the discussion on where you draw the line for whether or not a child's upbringing is natural or not. In general, and rightly so, it involves one of the four attachments in social developmental psychology. Commonly, the line is drawn at disorganized attachment, the aforementioned situation where an infant grows up with possible gender role confusion, and which has its roots in abusive tendencies from family members during infancy. Many would argue that an abusive household is an unnatural environment for an infant to live, however I am of the opinion that to a certain extent, an abusive household in modern day society can be considered common enough to be a natural environment.

An environment where a child is abused and sexually molested/harassed to the point where the child itself develops pedophilic or in any other way abnormal sexual tendencies is not a natural environment.

Most abnormal psychological behavior can be traced back to childhood trauma and the like, but that does not make them natural. One wouldn't compare schizophrenia to homosexuality, and schizophrenia is at least to some extent hereditary. Pedophilia, which is still a subject of debate on whether or not it can be hereditary, has even less reason to be compared to homosexuality.

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Post by Hubilub on Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:26 pm

PayJ567 wrote:Also you can't say Homosexuality is "natural" I know animals fuck other animals of the same gender but at the end of the day those animals don't fuck only their own gender. It is natural to pro-create and pass on your genes.

Not saying there is anything wrong with homosexuality but it isn't natural.
Why shouldn't it be natural by our standards? Indeed, through comparisons with the animal kingdom homosexuality is unnatural, but as I mentioned, our society grows more androgynous with every year. Procreation isn't even needed in order to conceive anymore, and scientists are theorizing that in the future, gender roles might entirely disappear. As such, homosexuality can just as much be considered an evolution of humanity as it can be considered unnatural.

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Post by Hubilub on Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:31 pm

Pararaptor wrote:

This is all entirely speculative with no evidence at all though, & I actually think it's due to social factors above anything else.
While I am of the definite opinion that some biological factors must be involved in order for an individual to be homosexual, I agree that socialization plays a very big part in helping this person come to terms with homosexuality, or even just help him choose what option he prefers between homosexuality and heterosexuality.

I believe that, similar to the development of gender roles, biological and social factors play an equal part.

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Post by Mr. Wiggles on Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:34 pm

@Hub: You can't sound smart in anyway at all with an avatar like that. Here try this.


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Post by PayJ on Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:37 pm

Mr. T.J. Wiggles wrote:
PayJ567 wrote:
Mr. T.J. Wiggles wrote:
PayJ567 wrote:
Pararaptor wrote:Yeah, that's why I'm saying if it's chemicals the mother or child ingests or social factors then it's not natural, if it's due to genetic mistakes in the mother or child not brought on by outside chemical factors then it's natural.
Yeah. Still they might find out the cause in our lifetimes. I mean they're on the way to discovering the cause of the universe.

Have we got a problem here pal?


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I've always wondered if black holes come from civilisations building machines like that.

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Post by Mr. Wiggles on Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:41 pm

PayJ567 wrote:
Mr. T.J. Wiggles wrote:
PayJ567 wrote:
Mr. T.J. Wiggles wrote:
PayJ567 wrote:
Pararaptor wrote:Yeah, that's why I'm saying if it's chemicals the mother or child ingests or social factors then it's not natural, if it's due to genetic mistakes in the mother or child not brought on by outside chemical factors then it's natural.
Yeah. Still they might find out the cause in our lifetimes. I mean they're on the way to discovering the cause of the universe.

Have we got a problem here pal?


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I've always wondered if black holes come from civilisations building machines like that.

Sounds like what radical christians tells their kids.

Little kid: "Are their aliens, mommy?
Momma Christian: "No, because science killed them all and it'll get you too unless you pray forty times a day!"
Little kid: "What about Stitch?"
Momma Christian: What the fuck

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Post by PayJ on Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:51 pm

Mr. T.J. Wiggles wrote:
PayJ567 wrote:
Mr. T.J. Wiggles wrote:
PayJ567 wrote:
Mr. T.J. Wiggles wrote:
PayJ567 wrote:
Pararaptor wrote:Yeah, that's why I'm saying if it's chemicals the mother or child ingests or social factors then it's not natural, if it's due to genetic mistakes in the mother or child not brought on by outside chemical factors then it's natural.
Yeah. Still they might find out the cause in our lifetimes. I mean they're on the way to discovering the cause of the universe.

Have we got a problem here pal?


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I've always wondered if black holes come from civilisations building machines like that.

Sounds like what radical christians tells their kids.

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Momma Christian: "No, because science killed them all and it'll get you too unless you pray forty times a day!"
Little kid: "What about Stitch?"
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Just a pointless fact you know that picture in the sistine chapel you posted there.

The whole image of god is actually a brain. Fuck renaissance artists where brilliant.

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Post by PayJ on Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:52 pm


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Post by Mr. Wiggles on Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:09 pm

PayJ567 wrote:
Mr. T.J. Wiggles wrote:
PayJ567 wrote:
Mr. T.J. Wiggles wrote:
PayJ567 wrote:
Mr. T.J. Wiggles wrote:
PayJ567 wrote:
Pararaptor wrote:Yeah, that's why I'm saying if it's chemicals the mother or child ingests or social factors then it's not natural, if it's due to genetic mistakes in the mother or child not brought on by outside chemical factors then it's natural.
Yeah. Still they might find out the cause in our lifetimes. I mean they're on the way to discovering the cause of the universe.

Have we got a problem here pal?


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I've always wondered if black holes come from civilisations building machines like that.

Sounds like what radical christians tells their kids.

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Momma Christian: "No, because science killed them all and it'll get you too unless you pray forty times a day!"
Little kid: "What about Stitch?"
Momma Christian:
Just a pointless fact you know that picture in the sistine chapel you posted there.

The whole image of god is actually a brain. Fuck renaissance artists where brilliant.

Swear I saw that in a TV show but I cannot remember what it was for the life of me. Something about science vs. religion no doubt...

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Post by Hubilub on Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:53 am

Damn you Wiggles, I changed my avatar and now nobody loves me!

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Post by NightSwimming on Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:45 am

Pararaptor wrote:The deciding factor on whether or not it is natural would not lie in what other animals do but if homosexuality was brought on by social factors or hormones in the womb due to ingestion of chemicals by the mother that she would not consume were it not for our industrialised civilisation (or indeed, the same chemicals ingested by the child at a young age), or if it was brought on by genetics.
And by genetics, I don't mean genetics in a purely hereditary sense. Shit can go wrong in the genetic code & the brain is a very delicate, complex machine. The mutation doesn't even have to occur in the child, it could again involve hormones the mother shouldn't have produced going to the foetus.

This is all entirely speculative with no evidence at all though, & I actually think it's due to social factors above anything else.

Very good points, and I concur. Also as a side note to back up what you're saying about in utero connections - a study took two groups of pregnant women. Half were made to eat a piece of aniseed daily, the other not. When the children were born they were placed in a rocker with two rods attached. One rod had nothing on it the other aniseed. The babies who were 'fed' aniseed always turned towards that rod, the other babies didn't react.


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While I am of the definite opinion that some biological factors must be involved in order for an individual to be homosexual, I agree that socialization plays a very big part in helping this person come to terms with homosexuality, or even just help him choose what option he prefers between homosexuality and heterosexuality.

Choose?
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Post by Hubilub on Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:06 pm

Woops, sorry, that was a terrible phrasing on my part. What I meant was that socialization can help someone with ambiguous sexual attraction to get a clearer view on what he is and isn't attracted to. Someone who is confused about their sexuality isn't necessarily gay, just undergoing a lot of social pressure. In these cases I believe socialization can help this person determine what sexuality feels the most comfortable for him.

Now it should be noted that some people believe that when someone who is confused about their sexuality finally derives at the conclusion that he or she is gay, this person was homosexual all along, and so there does not have to be a difference between the two. I simply brought up the possibility.

Although I phrased it like a retard. I NEED MY BUBBLES AVATAR BACK

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Post by LordCuthberton on Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:57 pm

Name and shaming is an awful idea if they're still out in the public. I'm fine with their identity's being released if they are going to be imprisoned for an extended period. After their long stay they get a forced change of identity and location along with supervisors to check up on them as further punishment. However, if they're in the slammer for 5 years or so their identity's should not be revealed at all.

The only reason vigilantes don't really exist is because they're usually one person against a load of thugs in the middle of night. Nobody is Batman and can fight multiple targets.

A wannabe vigilante see's kiddie fiddlers named and shamed nothing will stop him (And it will be a him) tracking the guy down and making a example out of him. An older man (and likely unfit) versus some armed yuppie would be an incredibly one sided fight. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy's house gets arsoned while he gets beaten into a bloody pulp.

So yeah, if naming and shaming is the way to go why don't we bring back public execution? For the same reason, because it's a monumentally stupid idea.

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Post by PayJ on Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:31 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if the guy's house gets arsoned while he gets beaten into a bloody pulp.

Then u got a nightmare on elm street situation and who wants that.

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Post by LordCuthberton on Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:32 pm

Jobless child actors.

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Post by PayJ on Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:35 pm

Thats a damn lie.

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Post by LordCuthberton on Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:37 pm

You can't handle the truth.

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Post by Katzenjammer on Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:57 pm



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Post by PayJ on Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:41 pm

Brilliant.

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Post by GrinningManiac on Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:15 am

Bonobos

One of our closest relatives in the ape family-thingy

They have lots of gay sex.

STUPID amounts of gay sex. And 'penis fencing'

To be fair, they have basically every kind of sex. All of them.

WHY, MONKEYS, WHY?

Also, DAMN the word 'Monkey' in its plural form - it declines IRREGULARLY!

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Post by MilkyFresh on Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:50 pm

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Also, DAMN the word 'Monkey' in its plural form - it declines IRREGULARLY!
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?? Explain Sir. Maniac.

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Post by NightSwimming on Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:55 am

Oh, you've got the fucking thing on SCROLL now Milky?!

Also, plural of monkey is monkeys. Regularity would have intended it be spelled monkies.

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Post by Komrade Kharloth on Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:24 am

While we're on the subject of sexualities...

I accept homosexuals/lesbians/bi sexuals as normal, yet for the life of me can't bring myself to see transgenders as normal, it just creeps me out and I have a hard time believing that someone can feel that they are a man/woman when they're clearly not.

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Post by Alkaline on Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:24 am

@Kharloth: From what I understand, it's their neurology. They might have the body of a wo/man, but their brains are that of the opposite sex. So when they say they feel trapped in the wrong body, that's exactly what's happening.

So yeah, that's my two cents on that issue. I could be completely wrong, but that's what I've heard.

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Post by NightSwimming on Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:30 am

I think you're spot on Alk. I was trying to think of an example to relate it to. Something to do with transplants. But because the transplanted organ/limb etc actually isn't apart of the original body, I couldn't find the words to make it a point.

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Post by NightSwimming on Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:20 am

I just found out they're making g-strings for girls around the ages of 7-11 with slogans like "Eat Me" on the front. Whatttttttt

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Post by Komrade Kharloth on Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:29 am

Shit like that's always disgusted me.

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Post by Pararaptor on Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:52 am

I think it goes without saying I'm all for transsexuals doing what they need to do & blah blah blah, but Goddamn I saw the dumbest thing ever written by a woman who wasn't even transsexual, just an overzealous sympathiser.

"If you don't want to have sex with a transsexual, you're transphobic & a bigot."
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Post by NightSwimming on Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:40 am

Jesus Christ. You can accept and understand someone's sexuality without feeling comfortable sleeping with them. A woman might have a lot of gay friends, doesn't mean she feels comfortable going down on another female...

That woman is a dickhead.

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Post by LordCuthberton on Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:22 am

I understand that part, but what about Drag Queens?!

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Post by Hubilub on Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:09 pm

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