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Post by Furburt on Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:41 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14070733

Wow, this is insane.

For those of you who don't know, the News of the World is one of Britain's foremost tabloid newspapers, not exactly well known for their brilliant sense of professional ethics. They've recently been found out to be hiring private detectives to hack the phones of many members of the British establishment, with the amount of alleged phone hacks increasing every day, starting off with the family of a murdered girl, all the way to Madeleine McCann's parents, victims of the 7/7 bombings, the families of dead British soldiers, and about a million celebrities and politicians. It seems to have been pretty much standard practice. What's more, the current head of News International, Rebekah Brooks, Rupert Murdoch's protege, was the editor of the paper at the time.

Okay, backstory over. But nobody expected this, that one of the UK's oldest newspapers, and its biggest selling, would close its doors so rapidly. Especially when Rupert Murdoch is poised to buy majority shares in bSkyb and thus own the majority of England's media services. Adding to that the fact that another major player in the case, Andy Coulson, served as communications director for David Cameron's government, and is due to be arrested in about 8 hours on suspicion of direct involvement in the phone tapping. Yeah.

Not really much discussion or jokes here, but if you have any interest at all in the politics of the UK then this is BIG FUCKING NEWS which will likely seriously impact the way newspapers and most likely all media work in that country forever more.

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Post by LordCuthberton on Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:14 am

I know it's a big story, been following daily myself. Didn't think anyone here cared!

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Everyone knows that Murdoch is dirty anything related to News Corp. is toxic, it's not exactly surprising they did what they did, but the only surprising aspect is the targets.

The revelation of the Soham Murders being involved was the point it crossed the line.


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Post by Furburt on Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:23 am

It's amazing how wide the scope of targets was though. Sienna Miller, Maddy, dead British soldiers. I don't think the NOTW could have done a better job of pissing off the middle class than if they'd suicide bombed an organic yoghurt shop.

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Post by LordCuthberton on Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:50 am

Hahhaha - Not the yoghurt!

I'm finding hard to think of the amount of resources it took to set all the taps up, covertly handing information over and storing it in a safe place, keeping the confidentially between the agents collecting and those filing and those high level NOTW workers. Not to mention how none of the low level journalists who received these sources for articles they were writing were so blind to not realise the corruption.

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Post by Komrade Kharloth on Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:26 am

Furburt wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14070733

Wow, this is insane.

For those of you who don't know, the News of the World is one of Britain's foremost tabloid newspapers, not exactly well known for their brilliant sense of professional ethics. They've recently been found out to be hiring private detectives to hack the phones of many members of the British establishment, with the amount of alleged phone hacks increasing every day, starting off with the family of a murdered girl, all the way to Madeleine McCann's parents, victims of the 7/7 bombings, the families of dead British soldiers, and about a million celebrities and politicians. It seems to have been pretty much standard practice. What's more, the current head of News International, Rebekah Brooks, Rupert Murdoch's protege, was the editor of the paper at the time.

Okay, backstory over. But nobody expected this, that one of the UK's oldest newspapers, and its biggest selling, would close its doors so rapidly. Especially when Rupert Murdoch is poised to buy majority shares in bSkyb and thus own the majority of England's media services. Adding to that the fact that another major player in the case, Andy Coulson, served as communications director for David Cameron's government, and is due to be arrested in about 8 hours on suspicion of direct involvement in the phone tapping. Yeah.

Not really much discussion or jokes here, but if you have any interest at all in the politics of the UK then this is BIG FUCKING NEWS which will likely seriously impact the way newspapers and most likely all media work in that country forever more.
Isn't that illegal, insensitive and down right assholish?

Good, I'm glad that they're closing down, that's a rotten fucking thing to do for a story.

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Re: News of The World

Post by Furburt on Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:52 am

Yep, and in a few cases, it actually directly interfered with police investigations and in one case it spectacularly derailed by giving the parents false hope. They were hacking the phone of their murdered daughter and recording incoming messages from people but it got full up and they decided to delete some messages. The parents saw this and assumed it was their still missing daughter doing it.

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Re: News of The World

Post by Katzenjammer on Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:58 am

I thought they weren't definitely being shut down?

Wouldn't fucking surprise me. As hard as it would be to convict the people responsible, they should absolutely do jail time.

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Re: News of The World

Post by MilkyFresh on Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:29 pm

Rupert Murdoch is such a good bastard to have around. I mean, who doesn't hate him?

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Re: News of The World

Post by Furburt on Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:43 pm

Thanks Australia!

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Re: News of The World

Post by Pararaptor on Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:47 pm

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Re: News of The World

Post by Furburt on Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:50 pm

katzenjammer wrote:I thought they weren't definitely being shut down?

The News of the World themselves are running their main headline as "News of the World to Shut Down", so I'm guessing it's pretty much definite at this point.

@Pararaptor: Ew, are they sterilized?

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Re: News of The World

Post by LordCuthberton on Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:12 pm

Sunday is the last edition. I'll be buying a copy and storing it.

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Re: News of The World

Post by Fniff on Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:43 pm

Great, I am playing my cheery music.

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Post by Sik on Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm

I have to say that this whole furore is being expertly managed by the politicians and police who dance Murdoch's tune. Compartmentalise the issue as much as possible to the NOTW, make lots of noise and take no real action against anyone responsible. Has been the M.O. at least since 1997 and the beginning of my interest in politics.

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Post by LordCuthberton on Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:06 pm

Heard Cameron on the radio saying he was proud to be in charge of the government who are going to dismantle the media's hold on politics.

Strangely he didn't mention his Chief of Communications....

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Post by Katzenjammer on Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:55 pm

Furburt wrote:
katzenjammer wrote:I thought they weren't definitely being shut down?

The News of the World themselves are running their main headline as "News of the World to Shut Down", so I'm guessing it's pretty much definite at this point.

@Pararaptor: Ew, are they sterilized?

LordCuthberton wrote:Sunday is the last edition. I'll be buying a copy and storing it.

That's great news.

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Post by PayJ on Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:00 pm

I'm glad newspapers are going under. I hope for more to follow.

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Post by LordCuthberton on Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:38 pm

Thinking in retrospect.

What better way to teach the NOTW that Britain will not tolerate devious practices by buying a fuckton of copies today.

They might have broken even with all the sales!

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Post by Furburt on Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:50 pm

Too late now! No takesies backsies!

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Post by LordCuthberton on Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:08 pm

I'm not sad about it!

Also, they have done a special "COMMEMORATE THE YEARS" type thing on the first 8 pages.

Page 1-7 is stuff like "LOOK AT WHAT WE SAID DURING QUEEN VIC REIGN/DIANA DEATH/SARAH PAYNE" and Page 8 is "LOOK AT ALL THESE TITS FROM OVER THE YEARS"

And then on Page 9 there's the standard Page 3.

I've seen less tits on the internet. Both twats and boobs combined!

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Post by Furburt on Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:15 pm

I bought it today. I'd never read it, so I didn't quite realize just how fucking tacky it is.

Really, not a great loss for the UK publishing world. What's actually bad about this situation is the precedent it's setting.

It's really funny actually, my uncle (Who runs the Sunday World, a national Irish tabloid), was really pissed off earlier because one of his best reporters decided to tell him to go fuck himself, stole a bunch of important files, and migrated to the News of the World. I know the guy, he's a cunt. Anyway, he's just been karma'd hard, due to him being out of a job. And believe me, this guy deserves it.

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Post by LordCuthberton on Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:47 pm

Yeah man.

Did you see Question Time this week?

So many Lulz because Hugh Grant was on it being passive aggressive.

Funny Note: My sister is working Silverstone. Hugh Grant boarded her helicopter (She flies them there ect) and he spent most of flight talking to her chest.

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Post by Furburt on Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:48 pm

Jesus, this got out of hand fast. Now pretty much all News International papers are being accused of hacking and bribing. Nasty shit.

In related news, Steve Bell (The Guardian), is the best political cartoonist ever.



His humour is so mellow leprechauns-ey.

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Post by reg42 on Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:44 pm

Ah, nothing ages quite as badly as a political cartoon.

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Post by Furburt on Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:01 pm

Except your mum, of course.

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Re: News of The World

Post by Mr. Wiggles on Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:07 pm

NOTW has it this long in the works. Although now they have closed part of me thinks public interest will fade and as a result the police may not feel as pressured into taking action.

On the topic of newspapers, it's not looking good for the Guardian.

£33 million - The losses made last year.
80% The amount of resources being focused on the paper's website, according to editor Alan Rusbridger.
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Post by Furburt on Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:12 pm

Poor old Guardian. Well, I'll keep buying.

I think this story will stick though. Given how Gordon Brown is now making allegations that his privacy was intruded on by the Sun and the Sunday Times, and that it's also coming out that 9/11 victims families might have been hacked too, Murdoch is in a bit of a tight spot.

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Post by Mr. Wiggles on Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:19 pm

I'm not certain Murdoch was involved in this. People are often quick to demonise him. Sure, he is an absolute bastard but I'm not sure of his level of involvement if at all and I haven't heard anything directly implicating him.

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Post by Furburt on Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:24 pm

The Murdoch I know is a paranoid control freak. He meticulously engineers every aspect of all the media under his control so it wouldn't make sense that a large proportion of the papers under his command would be committing these activities in the exact same way without him noticing and at least allowing it. Even if the order didn't originate from him, there's practically no way he couldn't have known about it, which implicates him anyway. It's already been shown that his son James knew about it.

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Re: News of The World

Post by Sik on Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:26 pm

MW wrote:NOTW has it this long in the works. Although now they have closed part of me thinks public interest will fade and as a result the police may not feel as pressured into taking action.

On the topic of newspapers, it's not looking good for the Guardian.

£33 million - The losses made last year.
80% The amount of resources being focused on the paper's website, according to editor Alan Rusbridger.
£0 The amount anyone has paid towards the Guardian Online

On the plus side for them, their online presence is much larger and more international than any other English newspaper, and as such they are best positioned to eek out a little relevance for a little longer when the papers all start properly dying.

Not that I'll miss it, faux-left holier-than-thou fad-worshipping cunts that they are. At least the football section isn't bad (former Graun reader, still follow it online more than any other daily).

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Re: News of The World

Post by Mr. Wiggles on Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:58 pm

Furburt wrote:The Murdoch I know is a paranoid control freak. He meticulously engineers every aspect of all the media under his control so it wouldn't make sense that a large proportion of the papers under his command would be committing these activities in the exact same way without him noticing and at least allowing it. Even if the order didn't originate from him, there's practically no way he couldn't have known about it, which implicates him anyway. It's already been shown that his son James knew about it.

Well, if you put it like that then, you certainly have a point. Still until they find definitive proof, which they probably won't, Murdoch will probably escape unharmed. Even if they found he admitted to knowing then I am sure his lawyers would help him escape any serious punishments.

Although, it is looking like he will be prevented from buying up bSkyb.

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Re: News of The World

Post by Furburt on Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:50 pm

Oh, Murdoch will always get out. He's a wily one.

But at least his influence can be reduced a bit.

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Re: News of The World

Post by LordCuthberton on Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:10 pm



Pictured: A young Murdoch.

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Re: News of The World

Post by Furburt on Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:11 pm

The FBI is now investigating reports that News Corporation, the US owner of News International, hacked the phones of 9/11 victims and their families.

Hooooly shit. They couldn't have picked a better way to get the entirety of the US to hate them.

That is, if it's true.

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Re: News of The World

Post by Komrade Kharloth on Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:26 pm


WHERE IS YOUR CAPITALISM NOW AMERICANOS?

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Re: News of The World

Post by Alkaline on Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:42 pm

Furburt wrote:The FBI is now investigating reports that News Corporation, the US owner of News International, hacked the phones of 9/11 victims and their families.

Hooooly shit. They couldn't have picked a better way to get the entirety of the US to hate them.

That is, if it's true.

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Re: News of The World

Post by Unabletothinkofname on Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:12 pm

Kommissar Kharloth wrote:
WHERE IS YOUR CAPITALISM NOW AMERICANOS?



RIGHT HERE YOU PINKO SCUM


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Re: News of The World

Post by Furburt on Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:14 pm

Dammit, I wish it was a proper Mock the Week this week instead of end of season outakes. I wanted to see them make fun of Murdoch.

@Nurbles: I feel sorry for Fidel Castro. Who wants to see themselves get killed in a video game?

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